These are the only hair ties I use. I have thick long hair and these securely hold them without being too tight. They di stretch out with use so where a new one I would do 2 loops in a ponytail, I'd do three before it breaks. One of these, not a pack but 1 individual tie, would last me 1 month with daily use. There is a trick to take them off, you can't just yank it off from top to the end or it will pull your hair. To take it off, you'd have to do it the same way as you put it on, one loop at a time, for it not to pull hair out.
I really wish Well would carry the black ones again.